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sorry but you guys have spent way too much time trying to justify halo odst. look people arent going to buy it by the butt loads because frankly people are getting tired of halo . you will always have your halo fanboys hence 2 millon first day but besides that. games are advancing way to much to still be on the same game from almost 10 yrs ago. yeah its the same as halo1 just polished up. its why halo 3 got old, fast. point is this is a halo game you should in no way have to justify this game its halo. dont admit it but the tides are starting turn. 360 is a good system but its like all the time you alway only talk abou t3 things with the 360 natal 4 games and live. Its like 360 has nothing to be excited for or talk about. just tired of people playing these games that arent pushing the game industry forward but instead holding it back. why should game developers do better when a game thats 10 yrs old kicks arse and isnt even doing alot. 360 is fcking the industry and we are just letting it happen.

no ones justifying halo because its halo, odst is being justified because it was a good game, even for someone like me that hated the halo franchise and i still do, your prediction of people not goin to buy halo because its old, well we'll see what happens, and your right the tides are starting to turn, maybe this will be the year of the other console....finally........ natal and xbox live might not be something your excited for, but that doesnt make it worth not talking about and some people do care about it, and thats why we talk about them,because its news for some poeple, maybe not you, and why are you tired of what other people choose to play, give an example of what the industry would be if these people stopped playing these games that are holding the industry back, if you have a mic and would like to voice your opinion about the 360 holding back the industry, feel free to contact me at \n This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it '> This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and you can have the open floor on the next genX show.

good show you guys! but i could not hear what Konrad, was saying his mic was to low ..but good show!!!

First, I'm not justifying anything to anybody. Whether people buy this game or not has no impact on my enjoyment of it or of my opinion that's one of the best games to come out there year.....so far.
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And you can't say that people are getting tired of halo, then remember that ODST sold 2 million in one day. That doesn't illustrate a community that is ready to move on. The franchise still sees more unique players online each day than any other console exclusive and perhaps across the board.
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It really just seems like you have a problem with the 360. Your argument that the console or the Halo franchise is somehow holding back is flawed and assumes that PS3 exclusives are not. The truth is that Halo still, years after Halo 3, offers a list of features that most games out there don't. Yes, it hasn't changed much since Halo 3. But too few games have caught up for it to be a big deal.
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People are excited about Uncharted's cinema mode. And while it does sounds pretty badass, it's not too far ahead of what Halo has allowed us to do for years. Killzone tried to make the game website relevant but failed miserably when compared to bungie.net. And Resistance 2 has a much better story than Halo 3/ODST, but is barebones online and a basic linear shooter offline. And, by the way, Halo still offers us a significantly deep co-op experience. Far deeper than most of the PS3 exclusives.
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Only MLB The Show is doing anything worth noticing in terms of innovation.
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There hasn't been an "innovative" PS3 exclusive since MGS4. And even that game is gone completely by the waste side. Uncharted 2 appears to be taking the crown, though, and that is really excites the PS3 owner in me. While the PS3 exclusives are far more varied, they aren't pushing anything forward. They're just really good, for the most part.
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So it's not just the 360 that's fucking the industry. But the truth is that up until recently, it was the industry. The PS3, my favorite console, is starting to gain grown in sales and should have an awesome 2010. But let's not start acting like the Halo franchise is somehow dooming a gaming industry that is only giving gamers what we want.
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Oh, thanks for listening. AZTEC79 on both XBOX and PS3.

hey dude, thanks for the support, ya i had to heavily edit konrads side of the show, i amplified it as much as i could then edited out the loud ass sounds from his mic, as a result makin his voice level drop low, so it was either a loud ass noisy konrad, or a soft low level clear konrad, i do apologize and next time konrads voice wont be as low, damn technical problems, thanks for the add on ps3 dude, peace

@av Konrad is just a low-talker. Me and Matthew yell.

fat guys tend to talk louder, konrads 70 pounds,

@Matt. He is a narrow little fella.

So anybody want to guess the name of the tune that was in the podcast?????

The mic I was using was two weeks old and i didn't think it was it , but it was . I just got home 10 minutes ago from Micro Center and bought me a nice usb 30$ mic with noise cancellation. Works great! Sorry for the trouble guys.
As far as trying to justifying Halo and it being old , well the game is really damn fun and thats all that matters to me . Good games don't get old , i might get tired of some title after playing it for three weeks straight or something new comes out , but i still return to it after a while. I have my yearly steady rotation of games that go back as far as 1997. Besides coop is just damn awesome , i like coop more then vs mode, thats why i still play Vegas 2.
As far as the PS3 , i really hope it does well because ever since i finished Infamous its been collecting dust .Next in line Uncharted 2

reason why i say that the 360 is holding back this gen is becuse its hit its sweet spot about 2 years back nad has stayed there. It hasn't made any strides to improve gaming as a whole. the natal thing is cool but is it really pushing what games can do or is it different software to whats already available on other system aka eye toy. the company in who doesnt seem too worried about what they can do for gaming that will bring im more gamers but how they can milk people out of dollars. It' s like a mask that they have over consumers to milk money out of them, i dont wish m$ was gone just wish they were more concerned with bettering gaming instead of ripping people off.
its already been proven that the ps3 is more powerful than the 360. so why have multiplats been subpar on the ps3 then. its not becuase of developers not know what they where doing. its cause its cheaper to puta game that isnt pushed to the max out on the 360 than on the ps3. Games are way shorter than they could be and we are seeing tons of dlc which could have been the entire game. This is total bull you think when rockstar developed the gta4 they didnt have the 360 limitations in mind. what gta game since ps2 hasnt had more than one island?
think abou tthe forza and the gt arguement. this a clear cut case of the 360 is holding this gen back. if these games where on the same system there is no way that these games would be compared to each other. If their was classes of games their would be b class games c class and a class. not saying that forza isnt a class but really. 1000 cars to 400 cars 3 games to 1 game. you get my point this is the hold back you are getting from the 360 games that shouldnt even be in the same playing field are getting compared to games that are way bigger and better. It's like because the 360 is their it brings gt down to the level of forza3 in no way is forza scratching the surface of gt. but its compared in every article. There is head tracking in gt have you ever used that before what is forza bring? a new what disc swapping method that sh1t is old i did that on the playstation when i played japanese games. seriously without the 360 not being bluray or not existing which ever you prefer. this generation would be alot better gmaes would be way bigger and better and maybe people would stop crying about madden we'd get a combine or something.

Great podcast great job.

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I understood what your argument was with the first post. You're saying that the 360's limitations, when compared to the PS3, are forcing developers to scale back and sneak in extra content after launch. Right?
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But how you're making your point is a little off. The fault lies entirely on developers. Multi-platform games have looked worse on the PS3 because developers didn't care enough to learn the new way of developing games. Being more complex does mean you're better.
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And games are shorter because developers have figured out that we will pay $10 to expand a game. It's not because of any limitations. DLC files are not that big and they use the same engine that the core game uses. DLC is being used to get people to buy new games and to get people to pay more. Not to cheat around the 360.
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And don't look now, but Resistance 2, Killzone 2 and Motostorm all overcharged for DLC and GT Prologue makes you download for that stupid TV thing it does. And what about Little Big Planet? That game is all padded costs in the name of DLC. SOCOM is doing DLC, Metal Gear Online did several packs of DLC. So by your argument, the PS3 exclusives are using DLC and are short because of the console's limitations. No. They're doing it because we'll pay.
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And don't use exclusives. Because they give you a far too real example. Use abstract examples if you're going to make an abstract argument.
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No PS3 exclusive, aside from MGS4, has done anything innovative. Forget about using the PS3 to it's full potential. Why didn't inFamous, Uncharted, either Resistance, Killzone, or any other exclusive use the entire Blue Ray space or cell processor? Time is money. That's why. Heavenly Sword was one of the shortest games I've every played. It's a PS3 exclusive.
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So please feel free to point out the flaws you feel exist with the Xbox 360 as this generation continues to develop. I'm going to agree with much of it. But you can't point the finger at a console you seemingly don't like without looking at the one you seemingly do.

Thanks dude we try, thanks again for the bitchin gamers topic

The funny part of this is, this is exactly what I'm talking about in my bitchin gamers topic, power of the cell vs games that actually sell worth shit, console vs blu ray player blah blah like I said in the bitchin gamers segment, the rest of the gaming world can kiss my ass, oh yeah Louie, pwned lol that officially makes te 300k lol

@Konrad. I have no clue what game that music goes to...but It sounds hella familiar. But I'm going to guess Halo 1 or 2. The music comes in around 1 hour.

Matt you need to grow some balls and stop being an xbox fanboy.

ok i get what you are saying but could the reason why thoses games didnt use the full blu-ray be because o fth 360. isnt is qutie possible to believe that these games would have been bigger and better if sony was never forced to come out with the ps3 yrs too early and not have any games. poin tis these games were rushed. killzone 5 yrs to make but did it have to come out or was it done. uncharted, heavenly sword. did all of these games come out short and early because of the 360. when you play heavenly sword the game feels like we have to cut to the story off make it shorter. psn was made out of neccessity right, why 360 and what does 360 do dlc. wow then you said no exclusive has done anything innovative on the ps3 besides metal gear. thats funny because metal gear is the only game that hasn't done anything new besides graphics. killzone 2 multiplayer is iinnovative what games does that none.little big planet speaks for its self. uncharted what you gonna compare that to zelda and that's not 3d their is not third person realistic adventure game on the market. socom, warhawk , online only games who else is doing that on a console. resistence 60 player online no lag what other system or games does this. check your facts dude the ps3 has done way more than the 360 has this gen in term of expanding gaming.
im just talking fanboy crap.
dlc who gets more free dlc speaking of that psn jokers free. command conquer free, rag doll, kung fu free, dynamic backrounds free(japan). 360 made the ps3 have to have dlc. seriously games could be bigger and better and the 60 dollar price tag that came this generation wouldnt seem so much. you see wii didnt change their prices 50 bucks and games are big on their too. I'm not saying that 360 is the only culprit but they are a large contributor. why no wii dlc they got call of duty they internet.

theirs always another side to the story sony isn't for the crap they did either coming out at 600 not helping devlopers with their tech. no hd cords, no head set, not having psn running even decent at first. You know i loved my 360
If it had been made with the future in mind i wouldnt care but when you buy a 360 do you think i wont need a another system for 5 yrs or this will last me till next year. Do you look at the 360 and think wow you have brought alot to gaming, you gave me a hd dvd player lol you gave me free online, you gave me a browser, you aredoing your share for the community like folding home. these re things that people dont care about. but when other people look at the gaming industry like President obama all they see is that the game system is turning kids to zombies. If im gonna spend a large portion of my life playing video games i atlest want what im playing to have sometype of positive image something. not beinga power hoging piece of electric caution ( touch this and you get rrod).
seriously i always had to fight with my mother about why games werent just a waste of my time. if the system played a better image in her head Home theatre system maybe she wouldnt have liked it some much. either way im one year away from being a designer now so i feel like i think i know what im talking about.

But MY main arguement should be i guess why i feel like the 360 isnt pushing the industry further but instead slowing it down. because 360 is a great machine and has dome good games. i just wished these companies would work together, because no matter if the next xbox and ps4 come out tommorrow and both promise the world one is going to do something better than the other one.

i dont give a sh1t about the powe rof the cell i pay 60 dollars a game i want bigger game blu ray. or a double dvd factor. the cell looks great and maay get even better who knows but the thing that can change is more data on a disk. sony sleeping on their ass with this blu ray. they got ps2 and ps3 games all the new ps2 games that come to ps3 why isnt the ps2 version on the disk i'd pay 100 for god of war collection 123 on one disk. even with 360 graphics. This is my point can sony take that risk with 360 on the market ? no they cant so it holds this generation from being something amazing. you can say im a bitchin gamer or whatever but im just keepin it real. 360 aint going nowhere but better believe that the dreamcast would have been the shit without playstation

I seriously can't read all that stuff. It hurts my eyes. So I'm going to move on and go play another 3.5 hours of firefight. You win. Xbox 360 is holding back gaming. Without it there would be a gaming world of massive innovation, low prices, cured cancer and a PSN network that offers more than a once-a-week content dump.
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Thank again for listening and for caring enough to write very long comments. We do seriously appreciate it. Peace. Out.

if you have dont like halo or dont plan on buying it why would you care if its worth the price of a full game.i fully agree with dizz with all the fanboy bullshit it seems nearly every podcast out there turns into a fanboy cockfight,the reason i play games is for the GAMES not for microsoft,sony,people have to spend less time in forums and comment sections talking shit and play there games,anyway keep it up guys

dude let it go already, ur trying reallll hard to defend the ps3 right now and trashing the xbox, pointing the finger is one thing, but refusing to point the finger at sony themselves makes u look like an obvious fan. natal is nothing to u but i bet you'll be the first person in-line watiing for sonys dildo motion controls, sony themselves are choosing to stay in the same position and thats on them not microsoft, microsoft never put a gun to sonys head and said launch your console now because we did, was the ps3 launched pre-mature? sure. thats sonys choice not anyone elses, 3 years later and sony still hasnt upgraded there online features to things that really matter, i guess thats microsofts fault too, sony launched a hell of a machine but never sends tech ninjas to 3rd party devs to help out with devleopment, i guess thats microsofts fault as well, so again all consoles have faults, sure, things remain the same that sonys not pushing forward into the future either, period.

dude thank god theres gamers like you, maybe one day i can sign back on live or psn and actually have a good day of gaming. add me on either psn and love (dizlaoboi916) k peace

ii never said i didnt like xbox or halo did i i said that the 360 is holding back the ps3. i have both and when i see games like forza being compared to gt a game that clearly out class it i get mad. because why compare the two it makes gt look inferior. forza saying they this and that but then you play the demo and are like this isnt ground breaking. so in return people who have paid attention to the media think that gt is on the same level a dont even knwo what they get. those thing marketing things and extra are what i believe are holding the ps3 back. m$ i m sure will come with tht pain but right now they lost me and im looking for a reason to jump back on my white box. but when they release remakes of games that arent what they could really be to shovel a buck that piss me off and i dont see as gamers how things like that can t piss all of you off. if i told you a game was the greatest and had everyone post bull about my competitior game and it was clearly better. you'd feel like i ripped you off. Maybe it isnt M$ its all the internet pub that is holding the ps3 back. im not saying all that will happen you know perfect gaming and cheap prices. that will never be. but as long as these two are compared as equals one will be set back. if the wii was hd would it be in the competition. odst is a good game but can we have som efairness back into the industry.

i wouldnt even feel like this toward xbox if they were gonna release another system in the next 2 yrs

if you were a third party why would you put out a game that wouldnt fit on 360 ? you wouldn't case and point

Great Podcast.

Its refreshing to openly tell the public how good ODST is, PS3 fans have scared other media types to tell the truth about a well constructed game. I dont have much time now, but the podcast was absolutely great!

So the name of the music clip is....
Tomb Raider
Thats for all those people who were wondering